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coming up tonight on the big picture despite thousands of protesters packing the state capitol tens of michigan republican state legislators today asked the republican governor rick snyder signed into law a highly controversial right to work for less bill and more and more states has the right to work for less laws what's the future of labor and in america and are we witnessing it's slow death also millions of senior citizen of the u.s. rely on medicare for life saving health care but republicans in congress don't seem to care are they launching an all out assault on medicare what's the real story behind that and republicans are just trying to destroy medicare they're trying to get rid of social security to the republicans only attacking social security because they're afraid to admit that it proves government can work. you need to know this michigan is now a right to work for a lot of state republicans rammed through the law this afternoon and it was promptly signed behind closed doors by republican governor rick snyder in response as many as fifty thousand workers converged on the michigan st
coming up tonight on the big picture despite thousands of protesters packing the state capitol tens of michigan republican state legislators today asked the republican governor rick snyder signed into law a highly controversial right to work for less bill and more and more states has the right to work for less laws what's the future of labor and in america and are we witnessing it's slow death also millions of senior citizen of the u.s. rely on medicare for life saving health care but...
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>> well where we are seeing it is michigan michigan is coming back. i was interviewed by some woman from cnn yesterday. she said michigan's hemorrhaging jobs. i was like shocked. >> bill: where has she been? >> i am sitting there going, i couldn't believe i heard this on this headset. she said michigan is hemorrhaging jobs. isn't this going to help? i said where are you at? michigan is the comeback state. we are the one that's doing better. our unemployment is lower than the national average. we are hiring people in the auto industry. manufacturing is coming back. the teamsters we are getting more employees. there is no way about it. this is a setback. this is basically a continuation of the right-wing conspiracy, the tea party, and this is, you know, the karl roves, the grover norquists, the sheldon adelsons and the koch brothers. this is the same thing. this just didn't happen. this isn't the will of the people of michigan right now we are fighting this in new hampshire. we are fighting it in missouri and other states. b they get a republican govern
>> well where we are seeing it is michigan michigan is coming back. i was interviewed by some woman from cnn yesterday. she said michigan's hemorrhaging jobs. i was like shocked. >> bill: where has she been? >> i am sitting there going, i couldn't believe i heard this on this headset. she said michigan is hemorrhaging jobs. isn't this going to help? i said where are you at? michigan is the comeback state. we are the one that's doing better. our unemployment is lower than the...
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this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the presidential politics and the president saying this is going to happen. so why can't these two men meet in the middle? >> it's interesting, because you're hearing in the public pronouncements almost no movement. the president reportedly lowered his target on tax, you know, revenue from 1.6 to 1.4. boehner stayed exactly the same, 800 billion. they are differing on how to get there. they are still saying the same things they have always been saying but then you have other reports in the "wall street journal" and bloomberg that behind the scenes the staffs are talking real numbers
this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the...
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right to work law in michigan. that is the union paradise. let's bring in robert costa who by the way is the newly reported national review editor. congrats on your promotion. i wanted to ask you. if it could happen in michigan a right to work law that gives individuals real choice where next? >> look republicans had a horrible 2012 but they still hold seats. they have an appetite for having labor fights. you are going to see them go into pennsylvania. it could happen. a lot of governors are going to start looking at their own states. does this slow that down? does it remind mr. obama and his left of center allies what happened in wisconsin they tried to recall the governor and it didn't work. and now it is spreading to michigan. does it have political implications in dc? sure. that is the big story right now. he has spoken to the workers protesting in the streets. this is the second term battle. how he is going to stand with the unions. go after them. how dbig a force are they going to be on the national stage? >> you are going to see them r
right to work law in michigan. that is the union paradise. let's bring in robert costa who by the way is the newly reported national review editor. congrats on your promotion. i wanted to ask you. if it could happen in michigan a right to work law that gives individuals real choice where next? >> look republicans had a horrible 2012 but they still hold seats. they have an appetite for having labor fights. you are going to see them go into pennsylvania. it could happen. a lot of governors...
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in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wages to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics, it is about both. the right to power sought by organized labor. where does that money go? i have to tell you it goes straight to the president's party, the democratic party, during this election cycle, public system or unions and their afilliated packs gave of their millions and millions of dollars to the democrats, the demes received from those unions, think about this one. 93% went to the democratic party. 93%. notopoly that, unions made up a large part of the democratic ground both o operation on all , local, state
in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wages to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics,...
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it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us behind the curtain and explain the relationship of the koch brothers and all of these right-to-work organizations that have been pushing this behind the scenes. >> what you see in michigan, behind the scenes as you say, are a number of grassroots groups that have names like americans for prosperity, michigan freedom fund and so forth. they are there to push lawmakers to pass right-to-work legislation, funded by some of the biggest interests on the conservative side. the koch brothers, we're talking about the prince family, eric prince used to run black w
it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us...
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joining us now from lansing, michigan, the republican governor of michigan, governor rick snyder. the issue at hand, the lead story, and that's the right-to-work legislation. you say it's going to lead to more and better jobs for people in the state of michigan. how? >> well, it will. if you look at -- you just need to look to indiana which passed similar legislation back in february. and the track record's clear. they've had a lot of companies come to indiana and making that one of their decisions to look to indiana. in fact, they've had 31 different companies accept offers from the indiana economic development corporation since that time that are accounting for thousands of jobs. so it's clear that companies are now coming to indiana that previously didn't have them on the list. so it will lead to more and better jobs, and that will happen here in michigan as well. but this legislation was primarily about being pro-worker, about giving workers freedom of choice. but the second added benefit is this jobs effect. >> i'm not sure they're going to appeal that way. >> governor, you h
joining us now from lansing, michigan, the republican governor of michigan, governor rick snyder. the issue at hand, the lead story, and that's the right-to-work legislation. you say it's going to lead to more and better jobs for people in the state of michigan. how? >> well, it will. if you look at -- you just need to look to indiana which passed similar legislation back in february. and the track record's clear. they've had a lot of companies come to indiana and making that one of their...
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now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that good news sent a jolt across wall street. the dow closing up, the fifth straight day of gains. the longest rally since march. >>> we want to show you an image that came into our news room today. imagine seeing this through your front windshield. it was the scene on an interstate highway in west virginia today. a massive gas line explosion, flames 75 feet high. so intense firefighters couldn't even approach. eye witnesses say it sounded like a boeing 757. the fire raging for an hour, completely destroying four homes, damaging five others and leaving two peop
now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that...
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to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the $25 billion price tag on this little-known tax will affect everyone of us. we'll tell you what it is. bill: we'll get back to this tragic mall shooting in oregon. the height of the mall shopping season. inside the mind of a shooter and an update from police on a possible motive this story. >> for all of us the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families. feel comfortable this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop?
to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the...
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>>> and michigan's governor signs the state's controversial new right-to-work law, but not before labor activists protest throughout the capital. captioning funded by cbs >>> >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for wednesday, december 12, 2012. >>> good morning, everybody. i'm terrell brown. good to be with you. >>> oregon officials have tentatively identify the gunman who opened fire at a business shopping mall. christmas music was playing as the lone gunman fired shots yesterday afternoon near the food court at one of portland's largest shopping malls. the gunman killed two people and seriously wounded another before taking his own life. one witness heard him say, "i am the shooter," as he fired dozens of rounds into the machlt bigad shaban is live. good morning to you. >> reporter: terrell, good morning to you. it's an eerie and quiet scene here. it's a much different scene than yesterday when that masked gunman began firing inside one of the busiest malls in the portland area. cell phone video shows police escorting shoppers to safety, and the first moments after a masked gunman open
>>> and michigan's governor signs the state's controversial new right-to-work law, but not before labor activists protest throughout the capital. captioning funded by cbs >>> >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for wednesday, december 12, 2012. >>> good morning, everybody. i'm terrell brown. good to be with you. >>> oregon officials have tentatively identify the gunman who opened fire at a business shopping mall. christmas music was playing...
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>> reporter: union members from across michigan and other states voiced their anger at the michigan capital. mike huerta has been a member of the united auto workers union since 1997. >> no one wants this in this state. this state is where the birthplace of the united auto workers is, this place is where unions built the middle-class. >> reporter: but republican governor rick snyder insists the legislation will help workers by not forcing them to join unions or pay dues. >> if they don't see value in the union in terms of its activities, should they be forced to pay financial resources for that? i don't believe so. give them choice. >> reporter: the governor and republican lawmakers argue the legislation will attract businesses and keep jobs in michigan. union members argue it will result in lower wages. clear evidence for either argument is inconclusive. workers in right-to-work states do earn $300 more than their counterparts in non-right to work states according to data collected by a group arguing for right to work. but five of the 11 sates with the highest unemployment have right-to-wo
>> reporter: union members from across michigan and other states voiced their anger at the michigan capital. mike huerta has been a member of the united auto workers union since 1997. >> no one wants this in this state. this state is where the birthplace of the united auto workers is, this place is where unions built the middle-class. >> reporter: but republican governor rick snyder insists the legislation will help workers by not forcing them to join unions or pay dues....
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the fiscal cliff come early to the workers of michigan.
the fiscal cliff come early to the workers of michigan.
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factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office building from. behind that column of protection he made his announcement that right-to-work is now a reality. here in michigan the cradle of organized labor and the governor explained why. >> fortrong reasons. first of all, worker choice. the freedom to choose and the concept of more and better jobs for our state. i think it was a good thing to sign this legislation and move forward. [shouting] >> the demonstrations did get tough. tent americans for prosperity was toppled by union demonstrators with people inside. there were no significant injuries. ther
factors say it will bring back jobs to michigan. critics claim it will lead to lower wages and fewer benefits. the governor, the republican governor just signed the bill about an hour ago making michigan the 24th state to be a right-to-work state in the u.s. mike tobin is on fox top story. is he live at the capitol in lansing. i just we just heard from the governor, right, mike? >> we did. we heard from the governor with a column of state troopers in riot gear surrounding his office...
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geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of phoney protesters. they weren't real grassroots people. they were accused of so many things. and there was no violence. fairly peaceful in their protests and gathering'. but this happened yesterday and there is a big yawn from the collective media, and frankly a flat liner reaction from the white house press secretary jay carney. if the shoe were on the other foot we know what would be happening. we would have a round of condemnation from democrats and republicans as well who would say there is no place for this. these are innocent lawful americans expressing their first amendment rights. they
geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of...
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he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a deadly bloody civil war rages in syria, the opposition gets new support from around the wormed and the united states. what president obama just said. and a look how this crisis figures in the foreign policy challenges mr. obama faces in his section term. that is -- second term. that is next. [shouting] having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress
he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a...
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. >>> a legal landmark in michigan. once a union strong hold, the new measure that is dealing a serious blow to organized labor. >>> then call it the safety dance. the cop who is really busting a move or two. >> he's having fun on his job. i can appreciate that. >> getting low, getting low, getting low. i wonder if he has a sound track out there for him. or just his own tunes going on in his head. >>> but first, the white house is out with a strong reaction to north korea's successful test firing of a long-range ballistic missile. >> the obama administration calls the launch a highly provocative act that threatens regional security. the question now, does the threat extend to this country? >> reporter: in a breaking news broadcast, north korean television celebrated the regime's successful test of the long-range rocket from its launch site. it is the second attempt by the north koreans this year. last april, a similar test failed within minutes after takeoff. this time, the rocket traveled directly over okinawa, before
. >>> a legal landmark in michigan. once a union strong hold, the new measure that is dealing a serious blow to organized labor. >>> then call it the safety dance. the cop who is really busting a move or two. >> he's having fun on his job. i can appreciate that. >> getting low, getting low, getting low. i wonder if he has a sound track out there for him. or just his own tunes going on in his head. >>> but first, the white house is out with a strong...
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in detroit, michigan, a few dozen protesters entered a state office buildings. demonstrators in lansing and other cities covered mouth with tape in a silent protest. they signed the bill prohibiting unions from requiring workers to pay dues. member or not. >> few things symbolize the economy more than the unfinished construction projects in new york city. each began with hope and promise and ran head first to environment filled with uncertainty. >> they are empty monument to bad economy. the developers have been left incomplete until they secure financing. they say the institutional construction lending has not bounced back from the 2008 economic crisis. >> they run out of money or combination of running low on money and not having enough sales where the condominium or co-op sales or the market for rentals doesn't appear to be strong enough to justify completion of the project. >> right now, the city says there are 691 star projects. number by 17%. half are 45% stalled since 2009. try and kick start construction, american institute of architect has a web site wh
in detroit, michigan, a few dozen protesters entered a state office buildings. demonstrators in lansing and other cities covered mouth with tape in a silent protest. they signed the bill prohibiting unions from requiring workers to pay dues. member or not. >> few things symbolize the economy more than the unfinished construction projects in new york city. each began with hope and promise and ran head first to environment filled with uncertainty. >> they are empty monument to bad...
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. >>> historic day that michigan as michigan lawmakers snubbed organized laborer by passing right to work legislation. we'll hear from the governor about why he says unions have no one to blame but themselves. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. at the chevy year-end event because chevy's giving more. more efficiency with sonic and cruze... more function in equinox and traverse... more dependability with the legendary silverado... and more style in the all-new malibu. chevy's giving more at the year-end event because 'tis the season. chevy's giving more. this holiday season, get a 2013 cruze ls for around $149 per month or get $500 holiday bonus cash. progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. ar
. >>> historic day that michigan as michigan lawmakers snubbed organized laborer by passing right to work legislation. we'll hear from the governor about why he says unions have no one to blame but themselves. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the...
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pretty hard for a buckeye to talk about a university of michigan graduate this way, mr. speaker, but it's going to be a big void for this house for not just all five, but especially steve latourette who has really given his heart and his soul for 18 years try to make this body and our nation a better place for our kids and our our grandkids. it really didn't matter who you were or what you were about or if you had an r or a d by your name with respect to steve. if he believed in your cause, he was your partner, and he was going to do everything within his power to make sure that cause, that issue was going to be solved. he didn't always win, but he surely went down swinging every time he took that cause up. and this place will not be as good as it has been without steve latourette, jean schmidt, steve austria, dennis kucinich and betty sutton. mr. speaker, it has been great knowing these folks. i'm pretty sure that all of them we will see again in one capacity or another. i know steve, that we will see you and jen and emma soon, and mr. speaker, with that, i think our ho
pretty hard for a buckeye to talk about a university of michigan graduate this way, mr. speaker, but it's going to be a big void for this house for not just all five, but especially steve latourette who has really given his heart and his soul for 18 years try to make this body and our nation a better place for our kids and our our grandkids. it really didn't matter who you were or what you were about or if you had an r or a d by your name with respect to steve. if he believed in your cause, he...
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the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. ms. stabenow: thank you, mr. president. i want to take just a moment to thank our distinguished colleague and my dear friend for his wonderful service. we serve on the one hand three committees together. it's been my honor to serve on the committee that senator conrad chairs, the budget committee, and to have him serve as a senior member of the agriculture committee, which i chair, and to have both of us sit on the finance committee together. today he has done what he has always done for us, which is to provide vision, common sense, intelligence, and a lot of numbers. and they add up, and they make sense, and so in listening to senator conrad's farewell speech, i want to thank him again for giving us a path forward. this is someone who will forever be in the senate history record as one of the great statesmen of our country, someone with intelligence, respect on both sides, compassion, a fighter from north dakota like i've never seen, and someone who serves in the best tradition of what it means to be an honorable public se
the presiding officer: the senator from michigan. ms. stabenow: thank you, mr. president. i want to take just a moment to thank our distinguished colleague and my dear friend for his wonderful service. we serve on the one hand three committees together. it's been my honor to serve on the committee that senator conrad chairs, the budget committee, and to have him serve as a senior member of the agriculture committee, which i chair, and to have both of us sit on the finance committee together....